Klipperizing my Flashforge Creator Pro 2 3D Printer

Posted 28 September 2024

I’ve had my Flashforge Creator Pro 2 (FFCP2) IDEX 3D Printer for about three years now, and it is my go-to printer for anything requiring internal support structures. For instance, this model is a pill dispenser that screws onto a pill bottle and dispenses one pill at a time.

The dispenser has a slide mechanism (colored grey above) that allows one pill/caplet to drop down from the bottle into a slot when the slide is positioned at one end of its travel. The captured pill is then dropped out of the mechanism when the slide is move to the other extreme. Printing this as a single piece requires the use of a dissolvable support filament, which in practice requires a dual extruder printer like the FFCP2. Although in theory this could be done on a single extruder printer with a ‘multi-material’ setup like the Prusa XL or the Bambu X1, in practice it is extremely difficult because the without a LOT of purging, the dissolvable filament contaminates the extruder head and weakens the print.

So I love my FFCP2 because it allows me to print things like the above pill dispenser, but I hate it because the supplied firmware is anything but elegant, and there have been no updates since I purchased it three years ago (and since it has been discontinued by the manufacturer, no updated are likely in the future either). However, a few days ago, while doing yet another futile search for FFCP2 firmware updates, I ran across this post, which claimed to have gotten Klipper to work on a FFCP2. At the time I wasn’t sure what ‘Klipper’ was, but after some research I realized this was what I was looking for – in spades! According to the Klipper Github page, it is hardware-agnostic 3-d printer firmware with the features described here.

Reading through the features list and the FAQ was more than a little overwhelming; I got lost pretty quickly trying to figure out what the heck this ‘Klipper’ stuff was doing. I think I finally figured out that ‘Klipper’ is a system composed of (at least) three parts, as shown below:

Klipper System Diagram

In the above diagram, the firmware in the 3D printer MCU is replaced by firmware that handles only low-level direct hardware control functions; all the calculations required for a successful print are moved to the Klipper host software on the Linux-enabled device (a Raspberry Pi or equivalent, or a Linux PC of some kind). This offloads most of the computational load from the 3D printer MCU allowing – at least in theory – the printer to actually run faster (although the physics of extrusion and motors will still limit the process). The Linux-enabled device also contains a web server (Mainsail or FLUIDD) that exposes 3D printer controls to the user, via any web browser or dedicated display like the very cool CYD program by Sims. The Klipper software in the Linux-enabled device is much more usable than my old Flashforge firmware, and since it is written in Python and is open-source, much easier to maintain/extend.

Progress to date:

Due to some hardware problems with my FFCP2, I haven’t yet gotten Klipper going on my printer. However, I have managed to connect to my printer’s MCU board using a cheap ST-LINK adaptor from Amazon and the ST-LINK Utility from ST Micro (ST Micro says that ST-LINK is now deprecated in favor of their STM32CubeProgrammer app, but I found that I could not connect to the FFCP2 MCU with this app, but I could with ST-LINK – go figure) . It took me a while to find my way around the ST-LINK utility, but I finally figured out that I could modify the default memory view ‘size’ parameter to capture more or less of the MCU’s flash memory. After a short conversation with ‘Guru’ at ST, I took his advice and expanded the ST-LINK memory view to the full 1MByte flash memory size of the STM32F407xx MCU on the FFCP2 motherboard, and then saved that image to a file for safe-keeping and, if necessary, reversion to the original firmware.

For the ‘Linux-enabled Device’, I decided to repurpose an old Dell Precision M6700 laptop that already had Debian Linux loaded from a previous project. After making sure that my Debian install was up to date, I followed the instructions in Evil Azrael’s Wiki to load Klipper onto the laptop. Here are some photos of the process:

The connections are:

           MCU SWD    ST-LINK

GRN      GND             GND

YEL       DIO              SWDIO

ORG     CLK             SWCLK

At this point, I’m waiting on a part delivery to get my FFCP2 back in working order so I can finish my ‘Klipperization’ project, but I’m really looking forward to having access to a non-moronic printer control package.

24 October 2024 Update:

When I connected up my ST-LINK/USB adapter to my FFCP2 and my Win 11 laptop, I was unable to get ST’s ST-LINK utility to connect to the MCU – bummer! After verifying all the connections and trying different things (power-cycling and/or resetting the FFCP2, disconnecting/reconnecting the USB cable, etc) I still have been unable to connect. This is a serious bummer, as if I have ‘bricked’ my FFCP2 I have no idea what to do next. I posted to the ST forum, so I’ll see how that goes.

After some more research, I found this post describing how to force a firmware reload, as follows:

I did all this using the .BIN file I captured from the ST-micro MCU, but unfortunately the printer did not respond. I have also attempted to find the original factory firmware for this printer on the FlashForge support site, but that all seems to have disappeared. :(.

28 October 2024 Update:

After crying in my beer for a while, I started looking for alternative methods for regaining access to my ‘bricked’ STM32F407 motherboard processor. I figured ST-Micro had to have some way of doing this, so I started poking around there. Eventually I came across this article that described the process, as shown below:

So I started looking for BOOT0 on my motherboard – a process that was hindered by the lack of a schematic. Apparently FlashForge printers (including the FFCP2) are ‘closed’ products and schematics are hard/impossible to find. Fortunately for me, I had developed a bit of rapport with the FlashForge tech support team, and I pleaded to them for a copy of the schematic, pointing out that since the FFCP2 is no longer supported by FlashForge, there shouldn’t be any reason to continue to hold onto the schematics. To my amazement, this actually worked, and I got an email back with the board schematic as a JPG attachment – yay!

FlashForge Creator Pro 2 Schematic with BOOT0 highlighted

As can be seen from the above schematic and photo, BOOT0 is connected to the resistive voltage divider R12/R13, and the value of R13 is 0Ω (short circuit) holding BOOT0 to GND. To raise BOOT0 to VDD (3.3V), all I have to do is remove R13 from the circuit and R1 (10K) will pull it up to VDD. Here is a photo showing R13 removed from the circuit.

After powering up the printer, I found that I was indeed able to connect to it using ST-LINK (ST32CubeProgrammer still doesn’t). Here’s a photo of the motherboard with a small SPST switch installed to make switching BOOT0 high/low easier

But not with STM32CubeProgrammer

31 October 2024 Update:

Well, bad news; although I could regain SWD connection using the BOOT0 trick, I was unable to figure out how to get my original FFCP2 firmware back onto the STM32 MCU. I can load the firmware (or at least ST-LINK utility says I loaded the firmware), but the printer won’t come back up properly after the load. I eventually succumbed and installed a new motherboard (ouch!$$$). The new motherboard seems to be from a different production run, as the ugly jumper wire is now missing.

As an experiment, I hooked up my old motherboard to my lab power supply set for 24 (actually 23.19), and was able to connect to it using ST-LINK Utility on my windows 11 box and a ‘clone’ ST-LINK adaptor. Interestingly, I was unable to connect using STM32CubeProgrammer on either my Win11 box or my Linux box. Maybe I have to have a ‘genuine’ ST-LINK adaptor for that magic to work?

Stay tuned!

Frank

Upgraded Temp/Humidity Display for Bookshelf Filament Dryer Installation

Posted 17 August 2024

Long ago and far away (at least 2m) I designed and built a small temperature humidity display for my plastic bin filament dryer setup, as shown in the following photo:

Arduino UNO-based Temp/Humidity Display

This worked well, but the display wasn’t very readable, especially through the side of the plastic bin. In the years since then I also did a digital real-time clock display project using the much nicer ILI9341 TFT display. I have a couple of spare displays and a couple of Teensy 3.2 units lying around, so, I decided to upgrade the temp/humidity sensor.

The schematic for the Digital Clock is pretty simple:

Teensy 3.2 ILI9341 clock schematic

As was the breadboard:

Digital clock breadboard

So, how hard could it be to use the same setup with the RTC replaced by the original Adafruit-DHT22 sensor

Probably have it done by tomorrow – yeah, right!

18 August 2024 Update:

Well, I don’t have it done yet, but I Have made some progress. I dug out one of my spare displays, a Teensy 3.2 and may small plugboard and wired them together using the schematic from my digital clock project. And, amazingly, it all went together quite nicely. I loaded up the ‘graphicstest’ example from Paul Stoffregen’s ILI9341_t3 library, and damned if it didn’t work right off the bat! Here’s a short video showing the action:

That is a huge step in the right direction for this project. Now all I have to do is add the Temp/Humidity sensor and code, and convert the sensor values to pixels on the screen – yehaw!

19 August 2024 Update:

I now have the DHT22 sensor integrated into the system, and have adjusted the display parameters for a nice ‘across the room visible’ format, as shown below:

Then I moved everything over to a more permanent prototype board, as shown below:

21 August 2024 Update

After a lot of quality time with OnShape, I created a nice bezel to go around the display, and a nice box to go around the whole thing

And here is a photo of the completed project. The temperature and humidity seem to have stabilized at about 87ºF and 33% RH.

Stay tuned,

Frank

Ikea Bookshelf Filament Dryer/Storage Cabinet

Posted 31 July 2024

I’ve been a 3D printer enthusiast for many years now and have accumulated a fair collection of filaments for my Prusa MK4 and Flashforge Creator Pro IDEX printers. All these filament supplies are hygroscopic to one degree or another and so have to be kept in a low-humidity environment to avoid deterioration. Early on I created my own ‘low humidity storage bin’ using a large plastic storage tub and a 40W lightbulb with a custom-made temp/humidity meter, as shown in the following photo:

Filament dryer with temperature and relative humidity readout

I adjusted the relative humidity to about 30% by creating and/or taping over holes in the plastic tub. This worked pretty well, but suffered from two significant drawbacks. First, the 40W lightbulbs are hard to find anymore, and they don’t last very long, so I have to keep replacing them. Secondly, the storage tub is mounted on a high shelf, so it is inconvenient to add or remove filament rolls. Also, the inconvenient placement means I often leave unused rolls out, and of course their printing performance slowly degrades – oops!

Coincidentally we had the floor in my office redone a couple of years ago, and in preparation for this I removed a lot of books from my wall of Ikea book shelves, and wound up with several empty sections. Over the last couple of years I have started storing unused filaments in those empty sections rather than in the dryer tub where they belong, as shown in the following photo:

My Ikea bookshelf wall with my not-so-dry filament storage

So, I had the brilliant (I hope!) idea that if I were to fabricate a transparent cover for one of the empty bookshelf sections and install some kind of heating element, I could transform my current room humidity filament storage into a much more convenient dry storage area.

My current filament dryer tub actually does a pretty good job of reducing the humidity using just a 40W lightbulb, so I reasoned that an approximately 40W heating element should do fine in my new design. I have an old Dell laptop power supply that supplies about 3A at 20V, so that should work as the power source. For the heating element I think I can use a length of #26 Nichrome wire as shown below:

I need about 10Ω at 20V to produce 40W, so at 1.61Ω/ft, I need 10/1.61 = 6.2ft = 1.8m. The Ikea shelves are about 0.9m long, so I’ll need to do an ‘out-and-back’ run with the wire, but that will actually make wiring it up easier.

Yesterday I went down to Lowes and purchased a 6-foot (~2m) section of 5/8″ (16mm) wood dowel as the choice for supporting multiple filament reels. After some experimentation, I settled on 87mm spacing between rod centers, and designed a spacer piece in OnShape to space the dowels and lift the reels off the shelf surface by 69mm, as shown in the following OnShape sketch:

3D printed version
Filament roll support rods with three 3D printed rod separators

Filament support structure in action (pls ignore the V1 support hiding behind the central V2 support)

Nichrome Wire Heating Element:

I didn’t have a 20V 2A power supply handy and while my DIY lab power supply could easily get up to 20V, it couldn’t simultaneously deliver 2A – bummer. However, I did have an old-style PC power supply with multiple 12V 5A outputs, so I used it to see whether I could generate 40W-ish power dissipation in a length of nichrome wire. Using a 60cm length (approximately 4Ω) the 12V supply delivered approximately 3A (36W) and it definitely got quite hot (but not glowing hot). As part of the experiment, I placed one of my old V1 rod separator parts on the heated wire, and noted that the wire slightly melted into the PETG material, implying that I would need some heat-resistant insulation where the nichrome wire goes through the holes in the V2 rod separator part.

05 August 2024 Update:

My order of heat-resistant flexible tubing came in, so I was able to make some more progress:

PET heat-resistant flexible braided sleeving

Unfortunately, I discovered that the sleeving was too large to fit through the holes I had designed into the V2 rod supports, so I wound up hot-gluing sections of the sleeving to the sided of the first and second supports, and then a longer section around the last support, as shown in the photo below:

Filament rod supports with nichrome wire threaded through sleeving

12 August 2024 Update:

I finally got my MeanWell EPP-120S-24 open-frame power supply delivered, so I can now make some more progress on my bookshelf filament dryer project. While waiting for the power supply, I went ahead and acquired a piece of 1/4″ acrylic for use as the door, as shown below:

As shown above, I tried out my idea for adding temperature regulating holes to the design. I started with a very expensive ‘Ryder’ diamond-encrusted hole saw, guaranteed to cut anything. Unfortunately it didn’t incorporate any means to keep the saw cutting in the same place, so it immediately shot off to one side every time I tried to use it. Fortunately Lowes has a nice return policy, so I took it back. My other efforts were with a regular hole saw I had around with a 1/4″ centering drill, and this worked OK if not great. The other option was a 1″ wood drill as it has a nice centering tip. I found I could drill through most of the thickness on one side with the wood drill, and then, when the tip was all the way through, turn the piece over and drill out the rest. Both of these last two methods worked fairly well, but I discovered that each hole took a lot of work and sweat to get right, and the idea of drilling 8-10 holes (4-5 at bottom, 4-5 at top) wasn’t too appealing. For now I’m going to leave the holes out unless I see that they are needed.

I installed the acrylic front piece on the bookshelf section using metal hinges. I wanted to use printed ones, but I found they weren’t strong enough (and the metal ones I got may be too lightweight as well – we’ll see)

Now that I have the power supply, time to test my theory about producing approximately 40W of heat from the nichrome wire length under the filament roll supports. I hooked up the supply to AC, checked the output (24V – yep), and connected it to the nichrome wire. As shown in the following photo, The supply held 24V and produced a little over 2A in the wire, for a power dissipation of about 50W – a little more than I had in my previous (40 lightbulb) setup, but should be OK.

24V power supply hooked up to nichrome wire heater. Note non-contact DC Ammeter reading of about 2.2A.

I let this run for about 30 minutes so far, and everything seems pretty stable. I did notice that the hot-glue material is getting somewhat soft where it was used to glue the pieces of heat-resistant sleeving to the rod separators, but nothing significant. I also noticed that the wire run is too loose at the moment, and part of the run rises up high enough to touch the bottom of a couple of the filament holders – definitely something I will have to address. Maybe I’ll need to print some more rod separators with larger holes that will accommodate the heat resistant material.

15 August 2024 Update:

Well, I soon discovered that the ‘heat-resistant’ tubing may have been heat-resistant, but it did not stand up well to actual use. When I started cutting it into small lengths, it almost immediately unraveled and became near useless. I also discovered that the hot-glue I was using to attach the tubing to the sides (the tubing was too large to go through the pre-printed holes) was melting and running all through the tubing, making it very difficult to remove the tubing from around the nichrome wire – yuk!

So, I came up with another brilliant plan; I found some high-temp silicone tubing on Amazon, 2mm OD, 1mm ID and my plan was to use this as a replacement, with the added advantage that the new tubing would fit through my pre-printed holes. My plan worked great, right up until the point where the nichrome wire got the tubing so hot that the wire/tubing combination melted right through the PETG printed supports – oops!

Those nichrome wire runs were initially very taut – until they melted through the PETG supports 🙁

OK, so my next great idea is to use a 1/4″ (7mm) wood dowel rod mounted through each support with small holes drilled into the ends to pass the nichrome wire. The wood will insulate the wire from the PETG support, so no more melting —- maybe :).

rod support with pre-drilled hole for 1/4″ (~6mm) transverse wooden dowel

This idea actually worked – except I forgot about that the wire had to somehow go around the end support without melting anything before being routed through the holes on the other side of the transverse support rods. The solution I finally came up with was to add a +/- 45º spread of rod segments around the end piece, as shown in the following photos

With the addition of the two end-piece rods, the nichrome wire is held well away from the printed parts. Also and the wire run can now be pulled taut and looped around the dowels on the power supply end – much nicer installation.

Here are a couple of photos showing the mostly-finished installation, minus only the cabling from the power supply to the filament reel rack and the reels themselves

Ikea bookshelf filament dryer with clear acrylic cover. Small blue box is temp/humidity sensor

Just as an aside, I have now been using OnShape for just over one year now, and I am beginning to really like it. I am by no means an expert, and I still have to spend as much time researching a particular technique as I do implementing it, but I now firmly believe it has taken top spot in my pantheon of good, bad, and ugly 3D design packages.

Stay Tuned!

Frank

Prusa MK4 3D Printer Assembly

Posted 14 June 2024

I recently received my new MK4 3D printer kit, and yesterday I started assembling it. I’m taking it slow and easy, as I already have a MK3S 3D printer and a Creator PRO II IDEX in my lab/office. I plan to document the process so that other MK4 builders can benefit.

Prusa goes to great lengths to make assembling one of their kits enjoyable and painless. They provide extremely detailed instructions both in printed form and as a ‘live’ document on their website. The document allows kit builders to comment on each step, so not only do you benefit from Prusa’s detailed instructions and pictures, you get to learn from the mistakes and/or good ideas from other builders. This is a huge advantage of this format, and really makes building the kit a global community endeavor.

I’m old enough to have assembled a number of HeathKit products from the 1960’s, including their 2-meter amateur radio transceiver. Heathkits were famous for their extremely detailed instructions and high completion percentage, and Prusa seems to be the modern-day equivalent of Heathkit in their zeal to make kit assembly easy and enjoyable.

Introduction:

I saw this comment by agemoz in the introduction section:
About to do my 3rd build. One thing that made it much easier to keep track of the fasteners and more convenient than the plastic bags is to get those little clear plastic condiment cups (dont need the cover). Cut out the fastener label from the plastic bag and put it in the cup with the fasteners. Preparing a build step now just means finding the right cup, rather than spilling from the plastic bag and having them roll everywhere–usually under the partially assembled printer.

My wife happened to have a whole stack of these handy, so I decided to follow agemoz‘s advice. However, due to the fact that we are owned by three cats, I needed the lids as well, and the lids made for easy stacking. Also, I fabricated a tray by cutting down the sides of the cardboard frame protector, so I could move the entire set around if needed 23 June 2024 update: it turns out that the cups have a nice smooth curve from the bottom to the side walls, which makes retrieving small parts (like M3nS nuts) a breeze.

Small parts bins (with cat-deterrent lids) and carrying tray

Each time I opened one of the non ziploc bags I dumped all the items into the cup, cut the bag down to just the label, and taped the label to the lid – nice! I also found I could (usually) remove the adhesive label from the small ziploc bags and simply re-adhere them to the lid – nice nice!

TOOLS YOU REALLY NEED!

The Prusa kit comes with all the basic tools you need to construct this kit, but you REALLY need a more advance set, for two very good reasons:

  • You are going to be installing about a zillion or so 3mm screws of all lengths, and doing all these with the ‘L’ shaped Allen wrenches will take forever. You will also on occasion need to install nuts on these screws, and the little sheet steel wrench in the kit, while usable, is just going to make you want to cry.
  • You are going to be maintaining/repairing/enhancing this printer for years to come, so you will be undoing and redoing lots of 3mm screws in the future. You might as well get the right tools for the job now, because you WILL need them later on

Here is a photo showing the absolute basic set of tools you will come to love as you go through the kit:

From left to right in the photo above:

  • Small LED flashlight: absolutely indispensable. You’ll need it to illuminate the nooks and crannies you otherwise can’t see, and you’ll need it to find screws that you drop on the floor
  • Torx wrench bit set: There are several places where Torx screws are used. These bits fit into most screwdrivers, and in particular they fit into the small battery-operated screwdriver in the photo above
  • Box-end metric hex driver set. The 5.5mm one is shown above, as it fits 3mm nuts. However, don’t get just that one – get the set as you will use them all.
  • Small battery-operated screwdriver. I used this many times with a Torx bit throughout the project, and it is incredibly useful for repair/maintenance as well.
  • Hex wrenches. You will use the 2.5mm wrench EVERYWHERE, and the 2mm one in many cases for set-screws on pullies. Again, don’t get just these two – get a whole set
  • Needle-nose pliers: A real life-saver on those occasions where you need to install a screw where your fat fingers won’t reach
  • Quality pair of side-cutters (also called flush cutters). You’ll need these to clip the ends from zip ties, and there are a LOT of them.

Frame Assembly:

The frame consists of a cast aluminum vertical piece and four horizontal square cross-section pieces that butt into the frame from both sides. The horizontal pieces support the build plate, and the vertical frame supports the Z-axis guide and lead screw rods. If the frame isn’t perfectly orthogonal to the build plate, those rods will undergo side torque/stress as the build plate rises and falls.

lee.krasnow‘s technique: “The way that I like to do this step is to leave the screws a bit loose and then hang the lower lip of the frame off the edge of my flat (granite) plate so that the big square frame piece is sort of just suspended in the air by the screws.  At that point I press down on both extrusions (to clock them) and make sure that they can wiggle around freely (to check that the screws are properly loose) prior to tightening them in the manner specified in the instructions.  The important thing here is that the extrusions are touching the flat surface but that the frame is hanging freely in space.

I used a piece of Corian left over from our kitchen countertop construction as the ‘flat plate’ above, and instead of pushing down on the extrusions with my hand, I used the cast Y-carriage plate as a ‘load spreader’. The following photos show the process for the longer extrusions; the process is similar for the short ones.

3mm hex wrench fits easily into gap between extrusion and Corian base with vertical frame on the baseplate
Extrusions are flat with frame lower lip off the edge of the Corian plate. Long extrusions in place, with hand pressure on Y-carriage plate used to make sure extrusions are flat and parallel.
Hand pressure on Y-carriage ‘load spreader’ while tightening extrusion mounting screws
Mounting short extrusions

Going on to the front/back plate assembly step, I saw the following comment by beeMom (typos corrected by me): I highly recommend doing Steps 13 and 14 and then Steps 11 and 12 BEFORE front and back plate assembly. The cable clips were impossible for me to put on and I ended up having to take both plates and antivibration feet off. It was a lot easier to pinch the clips into the groves. Another reason to not fully tighten the screws yet

I took (her?) advice and did it this way, as shown below:

Cable clips and anti-vibration feet attached before end-plate mounting

The next step was to insert the M3nE nuts in the outside groove of both the short extrusions. I found the following comment very helpful:

The groove on the nut should be facing outwards, the two pins on the nut should be inwards and pointing down. When inserting the nuts, take one M3x10 screw and screw it in the nut just a bit. Use the screw as a handle for inserting the nut while pushing on the springs one after another with your finger. You can keep the partially screwed-in M3x10 screws in the nuts as you’ll need them exactly this way later in the build. Just don’t lose them.

The following photo shows the second nut on one side partially inserted, with one clip remaining, with my finger ready to compress that clip. Note the M3x10 screw ‘handle’.

M3nE nut with one spring clip in and one out. Press with finger while sliding in with M3x10 ‘handle’

Completed the frame – yay! Time for some gummy bears :).

Completed Frame Assembly with PSU installed

xBuddy Box:

I noted some commenters suggested the M3x6 (and M3x10) screws should have been in ziploc bags rather than a tear bag, and I would agree with this. However, since I am using the agemoz ‘condiment cup’ tip (with covers due to marauding cats), I simply decanted the bag into the cup, cut the bag down to just the label, and taped the label to the cover, as shown:

Alternate to re-using ziploc bags for M3x6 screws

And thanks to Daperrys32, I didn’t have to waste an hour hunting down all the required parts!

xBuddy box: printed parts & xbuddy box > very bottom left of box
Thermal pads: Fasteners & electric box (filament size box) > big Frame bag 
M3x6 & M3x10: Fasteners & electric box (filament size box) > FASTENERS 1/2 bag > both have own bags
xBuddy board: Fasteners & electric box (filament size box) > white bubble wrap labeled xBuddy
Zip ties: Printed parts box
x holder: printed parts box > big frames bag

After mounting the xBuddy box onto the frame and the M3x10 screws protruding from the M3nE nuts on the short extrusion, I couldn’t get the box to move freely enough to engage the M3x6 screws on the frame. Looking at the situation, I realized that one of the M3x10 screws had a definite ‘downward’ lean; the M3nE nut had rotated inside the extrusion and was now jammed, and its screw was now jammed against the inside surface of the xBuddy box, preventing free movement. The cure was to insert the hex wrench into the M3x10 head and firmly pull it upward until the M3nE nut ‘popped’ back into place. This won’t require a lot of force, but it will be noticeable. The following two photos show the ‘jammed’ and ‘correct’ positions:

‘jammed’ position. Note the definite downward slant of the M3x10 screw
‘Correct’ position. Now the screw is much more horizontal and allows free movement of the xBuddy box

xBuddy Board:

There were a bunch of comments regarding difficulty removing the thermal pad adhesive covers without also removing the adhesive layer. I have done this millions of times over the years and I much prefer using an Exacto knife for this purpose. See the following short video for the technique:

Using Exacto knife to remove thermal pad adhesive layer cover

there were a number of comments regarding the process of mounting the xBuddy board into the xBuddy box. I used martinbartin‘s advice and ‘pre-screwed’ the holes before mounting the box. I used a small bit of museum glue (chewing gum or a small piece of double-sided tape also works) to hold the screw on the end of the hex wrench while aligning the screw with the hole. See the following short video for the technique:

Using museum putty to hold the screw for alignment

To get the best possible starting alignment of the xBuddy board with its mounting holes after removing the thermal pad adhesive cover, I inserted the board at an angle to the bottom of the box, so the ethernet and other connectors mated with their corresponding box cutouts before the thermal pads contacted their respective raised areas, as shown in the following figures.

Using this technique, the board holes will be very close to perfect alignment when the thermal pads contact their raised areas, and any the thermal pad material is flexible enough to easily accommodate any required movement.

Y-Axis Motor Mount:

There were a lot of comments about this step. Apparently it is difficult to get the motor body exactly parallel to the frame, as this is critical for proper alignment the Y-axis belt in Chapter 7: Y-carriage and & Heatbed Assembly. There were lots of complaints about the 24×24 thermal conducting pad being too thick to allow for proper motor alignment, which I thought was a bit odd seeing as the heat transfer material is made to ‘flow’ like putty to smooth out irregularities. Then, after reading through the notes here and in Chapter 7 I found this one from paulkudrna67

So some may find this a bit crazy but as a mechanical engineer working in the electronics industry, I feel I have a bit of technical understanding regarding the strength of the steel plates that make up the motor and the function of thermal pads. Short story is that the steel motor plates are very strong. What I did in chapter 3 when originally installing motor is to make sure it was square to front plate. The thermal pads are by design a bit “compressible” and will form into shape. I put my 2 screws thru the holder and tightened snugly with addition of blue loctite. I then took 2 business cards and placed them on the back of the motor and the other on front face of the extrusion plate. Then using a medium c-clamp I gently squeezed (did not take much pressure) the motor by making sure the clamp face was resting on the sandwich of steel motor plates (business card protected finish). Using a steel square and a flashlight to backlight the gap between the square to the motor face, I slightly squeezed the clamp a tiny bit more until the light showed motor was square. At this point I snugged the 2 screws and removed the clamp. Note – the clamp did not apply a lot of pressure, just enough to allow the thermal pad to form and squeeze into size.  I am sure some will find this nuts but note that it is only crazy if you clamp too tightly. 

This technique seemed like good common sense to me, and since I have a pretty well stocked shop with an assortment of C-clamps I decided to try paulkudrna67‘s technique (C-clamps are pretty durable, and cheap too. A pair of 4″ clamps from Northern Tool company can be had for around $10 USD, and one 4″ clamp costs around $7 USD at Amazon). Likewise, a metal square can be purchased from Amazon for about $10 USD.

As the following photos illustrate, I implemented the above technique.

Test drive of paulkudrna67‘s technique. I haven’t yet removed the blue protection layer from the thermal pad
Shows the gap between the square and the back of the motor before compressing the thermal pad with the C-clamp
Getting ready to remove the blue protection layer from the thermal pad
Thermal pad cover removed
Motor mounted. Shows misalignment gap before C-clamp compression
Misalignment gap removed after C-clamp compression
Some misalignment remains after removing C-clamp
Compressed again with C-clamp and left it there for several minutes
No misalignment gap after second C-clamp compression. Good to go?

After going through this procedure, I’m not entirely convinced that this technique has permanently fixed the issue. After the first compression cycle, there was still a noticeable misalignment gap. Although no gap was visible after the second cycle, I don’t have a lot of confidence it will stay that way. However, since the mounting screws are essentially directly on the Y-axis centerline, there shouldn’t be much, if any torque on the motor assembly, so no significant pulling force on the thermal pad. We’ll see how this works out later on.

X-axis & X-carriage assembly:

Doug made the following comment:

When I built my first Prusa kit I found the “pull” method very effective for setting nuts. But dang, that’s a lot of screwing and unscrewing. This time around, I took a spare M3x20 and pre-loaded a bunch of M3n’s onto it, right up against each other. When I need to set one, I unscrew the whole stack until the one on the end has about 2 turns left on it. I push to set it in place, unscrew two turns and I’m ready to set the next one. It sounds simple but cumulatively it saves a whole lot of time. 

I liked this idea – a lot – so I copied it, as shown in the following photo

Spare M3x20 screw with 6 M3n’s loaded for bear

This turned out to work really well – thanks Doug! Here are some photos showing the process.

The ‘active’ M3n is unscrewed to the end of the bolt
Then the bolt is used as a handle to insert the ‘active’ M3n
Then the bolt is unscrewed from the ‘active’ M3n and removed, leaving the M3n in place – neat!

The next step was to insert a M3nS nut into a slot on the inside of the ‘oval’ hole. This looked to be a bit awkward, so I loaded the nut onto a M3x16 screw and used it as a handle to get the nut partially inserted into the slot. Then I held the nut in place with a fingertip and removed the M3x16 screw, as shown in the following pictures – worked great!

Using M3x16 screw as a handle to get the nut started in the slot
Nut held by fingertip after removing the screw. Easy to push down into the slot at this point.

X-axis Linear bearings:

Bearings pre-lubricated by Prusa company are shipped in a blue bag. If you have pre-lubricated bearings, go to Inserting the bearings: X-end-motor.

Looks like I got lucky – all my X-axis bearings are pre-lubricated! When reading this part of the instructions earlier, I wondered why Prusa would ever ship un-lubricated bearings – that’s just asking for trouble. So, props to Prusa for saving me from making a mess and probably screwing up in the process!

Pre-lubricated bearings – YAY!!

When I mounted one of the long bearings onto the X-axis motor mount, it made a distinct ‘snap’ when it reached the end of travel. Here’s a photo showing the bearing ball lines oriented in an ‘X’ arrangement as described in the assembly instructions

Bearing balls lined up in an ‘X’ configuration

Step 14 Inserting the bearings: bearing pads:

In the notes for this step there were several mentions of problems with inadvertently applying double-thickness pads due to pad parts being stuck together. To address this issue, I lined up all six (four plus two spares) pads on a flat surface, and then ran my finger lightly over all six, feeling for differences in thickness as I went. The following short video shows the process:

Using this technique, I was sure I didn’t have any double-thickness pads, so I could proceed with confidence.

I wasn’t quite sure how to place the rubber pads into the bearing holder, so I had to fool around a little bit. However, after close inspection of the parts, I was able to see the recessed areas that screamed “Put a rubber pad here!”, as shown by the black rectangles in the following photo.

Place the rubber pads across the indented areas highlighted by the black rectangles

Here’s a short video showing my installing the second rubber pad on one of the bearing holders

Here’s a short video of the process of sliding the bearing holder onto the X-axis motor mount. Note in the video that I used a hex wrench to highlight the ‘protusion’ noted in the instructions. This ledge stops the bearing holder from sliding past the bearing.

Note the back-and-forth wriggling motion as the pads slide under the bearing

Sliding the X-end motor mount onto the two rods already inserted into the X-end idler piece wasn’t hard, but it wasn’t entirely straightforward either. Here’s a short video demonstrating the technique suggested by paulkudrna67:

And, as SLVR Design noted, it is possible to wind up with the two end pieces oriented in opposite directions (ask me how I know), so make sure your completed step matches the illustrations in the assembly manual, or as shown here at 0:56 into the movie

X-Carriage, X-Carriage Clip:

Looking through the notes, it appears that several builders managed to attached the clip to the carriage (Step 31) with the clip rotated 180 degrees with respect to the carriage part. See the following video for the (hopefully) correct way to do this.

Finally got the X-axis assembly finished – Yay!

Completed X-axis assembly – Woo Hoo!

4. Z-axis assembly:

Assembling the Z-bottoms:

There were several comments recommending that the 10mm rods should be inserted and removed from each Z-bottom part before mounting them to the frame. So, I did that and found the rods were very hard to insert and even harder to remove, but do-able. The following short video shows the process. Note there is an inspection hole on the side of the hole that accepts the 10mm rod to confirm that the rod is fully seated:

Pre-cleaning Z-bottom 10mm rod holder holes

Installing the Z motors:

I didn’t think the Z motor cable routing was very well documented, so I took a photo of my routing mine:

Z motor cables routed through frame cutouts (covered in blue painter’s tape to keep cable from falling out)

Installing the X-axis assembly:

The photo below shows the printer at the end of the X-carriage assembly integration task. There were some steps in this task where comments made a real difference in the process:

End of X-carriage integration step. Note special Prusa ‘X-holder’ tool

One commenter suggested that the Z-axis rod centering process would go much easier if the Z-topper & ‘trapezoidal nut’ (aka leadscrew follower) were installed first. I did it this way and it seemed to go much easier.

When I started the rod centering process, my common sense told me that to move the rod to the left, I should tighten the screws on the left side of the z-bottom assembly, but in fact the opposite was true – to move the rod to the left, the screws on the right of the z-bottom assembly should be tightened; took me a while to figure that out. I have included a short video showing the centering process. Note that the movement of the z-axis leadscrew rod is very subtle, so pay attention!

Z-axis Assembly:

While working on the Z-axis assembly chapter, I discovered I was missing one of the textile sleeves – specifically the 5x350mm one, the center one in the photo below:

So, I jumped onto the live chat, waited the normal interminable wait (made easier by the fact that I could continue to build while waiting), and explained the situation to the chat technician. This process was made SO much easier by the fact that I could take the pictures he requested, and send them directly to ‘info@prusa3d.com’ from my iPhone – no need to transfer them to my PC first – yay! One of the photos he asked for was a shot of ALL the remaining parts – hmm, not so easy. However I was able to do this by arranging all the remaining small parts bags/boxes on my office floor and taking a photo from above, as shown below:

All remaining small parts at the start of ‘Z-axis Assembly

He also asked for a photo of my work area, which I thought was a little strange, but hey what do I know?

MK4 kit build work area

The reason I’m including this session here is because I wanted to highlight the ‘live chat’ feature – a great complement to Prusa’s kits. Chat is available 24×7, and the folks at the other end of the line seem very knowledgeable and helpful – Yay Prusa!

Wrapping the textile sleeve:

The next step in the Z-axis assemble was to feed the rest of the extruder cable into the 8x520mm sleeve, along with the nylon strain-relief filament, as shown here:

I found this awkward to do because of the upward travel of the filament, so I decided to rotate the entire chassis about 45 degrees toward me so that the upward filament travel was easier to manage:

Chassis tilted forward 45 deg to facilitate wrapping extruder cable into textile sleeve

Step 34: Here it is!

At the end of the Z-axis Assembly chapter, the kit assembly instructions provides a ‘Here it is!’ photograph showing the state of the kit at this point. So, I took a photo of my kit at this point for comparison:

Looks pretty good if I do say so myself! 😉

Chapter 5: Nextruder assembly:

Nice comment from efvee:

You need do not do anything with the printer as built up to now until mounting the Nextrudr in step 22. You will do fine mechanic assembly (sic) work instead.
So: move the printer out of the way and clean your desktop.

So I did 😉

Clean work area in preparation for Nextruder assembly

Assembling the extruder idler:

Reading the comments associated with this step, I found a couple of different commenters saying that the two small printed parts comprising the idler assembly can soften and fail to function properly when printing at higher temps, like in an enclosure. When/if they fail, you are out of business until they can be replaced. And, if you only have one printer, you cant print replacements – catch 22! The solution is to print replacement parts before the originals fail – what a concept! That sent me off into google-land trying to find Prusa’s library of printed parts – not an entirely easy thing to do – and finally found them here (click on ‘ALL PRINT FILES (19MB) to get them all). Once on my PC, I transferred them to the USB stick that came with the printer (don’t know why they weren’t on there already, but…).

Then I found the nextruder idler parts (idler-lever-A-R2.stl and idler-lever-B-R2.stl) and printed them in black PETG on my MK3S+, as shown in the following photo.

My plan is to throw these into the MK4 SPARES bag and then put the bag in my newly christened ‘Prusa MK4’ RubberMade container. Hopefully, some time in the future when the idler parts fail, I will remember (or re-read) this post, replace the failed parts with these, and then immediately print another set of spares.

Attaching the extruder/Connecting the NTC thermistor:

The last part of Step 21 Assembling the heatsink describes attaching two thumbscrews to the side of the heatsink. Actually, these should be left off until later, as they get in the way of running cables up through the cable guideway to the Love board. They can easily be attached at any point in the assembly of the kit.

Step 22 of the Nextruder chapter describes attaching the extruder body to the X-carriage, and Step 23 describes connecting the NTC thermistor cable (black cable extending from the heatsink) to the Love board. I found that it was MUCH easier to switch these two steps; with the heat sink assembly mounted on the X-carriage, it is very difficult to get the thermistor cable connected to the Love board. Here are a few photos detailing the EASY way to do this:

I also did the same thing with the ‘Assembling the hot end fan’ step (Chapter 5,step 25). Plugged the connector into the Love board first, then mounted the fan and dressed the wires into the wire/cable channel – MUCH easier!

Step 27: Inserting the hotend assembly:

The Prusa instruction for part of this step say:

The gap between the top of the extruder ‘tail’ and the bottom of the copper sleeve is almost exactly 2mm.  Prusa I recommend  you change the wording to

“Push the hotend assembly all the way into the heatsink until the bottom of the copper-colored sleeve is just barely visible, leaving an approximately 2mm gap between the top of the extruder itself and the bottom of the heatsink”

2mm is going to be pretty hard to measure in this situation. Some builders recommend you measure this distance on the hotend assembly before inserting it into the heatsink and then put some kind of mark at the correct point. Looking at the hot end assembly, it appears to me that the distance between the bottom of the copper-colored sleeve and the top of the extruder is almost exactly 2mm, and the Prusa-provided detailed photo shows that the bottom of the copper-colored sleeve is just visible in the hole in the heatsink:

Before inserting the hotend tube into the heatsink hole, place the printer frame on its ‘back’ (PSU/xBuddy Box) side. This make the insertion step MUCH easier.

Sliding the hotend tube into the heatsink. At least on my build, the tube hit a stop just at the right depth.

Note: Contrary to what is shown in the above photo, it is better to leave the upper thumbscrew off until after the hotend cables have been dressed through the wire channel and connected to the Love board.

Step 30 Assembling the fan-door: mounting fan

Builder sonra commented that he used a piece of Scotch tape to hold the wires in place during assembly. Once everything was assembled, he removed the tape:

Step 31 Assembling the fan-door: assembling fan-shroud

This step calls for attaching the fan to the fan-door using 2ea 3x10mm screws. The screws pass through the fan mounting holes and screw into holes in the fan-door – no nuts – just screws into the material. Unfortunately, at least on my part the 3mm screw didn’t pass through the fan part, and it wasn’t just a matter of wiggling them a bit to get them to go through. The fan mounting holes were just too small.

A chat with the Prusa guys (only 1-2 minutes wait time in the middle of the day!!) confirmed that the fan part number (3Z23F61R) was the correct one, so I have no idea what happened. I drilled the holes out with a 3mm clearance drill and that solved the problem, at least in my case. For anyone reading this, don’t be surprised if the fan mounting holes are under-sized.

Step 39 Covering the LoveBoard: side cover

Some builders commented that the right-hand side cover for the Love board caused problems with the later X-axis self-test. Apparently it hits the ‘Trapezoidal screw’ mounting screwhead before the software thinks it should, and fails the test. I looked at my arrangement and saw that it was going to do the same thing. So, I proactively addressed this issue – we’ll see how I did when I get to the X-axis self test:

The problem: Right-side cover hits top of leadscrew nut mounting screw
The solution: Dremel off material so as to miss the screwhead
The result: side-cove no longer interferes with leadscrew nut mounting screw

Step 41 Tensioning the X-axis belt:

Prusa put together a real fancy phone app to help kit builders to optimize belt tensions, as shown below:

The app ‘listens’ to audio of a belt being strummed by the user, calculates its frequency, and displays it on a pseudo spectrum of sorts while announcing either ‘too tight’, ‘too loose’ or ‘just right (The Prusa version of ‘Goldielocks and the three Bears’). The problem is, it doesn’t do a very good job, and violates just about every rule for user interfaces that Alan Cooper (the father of Visual Basic) described in his seminal book ‘About Face’ some thirty years ago. The one thing this app did for me (actually, just the above picture of the app) was to tell me the optimum belt tension frequency – 82Hz. I then did a google search for ’82Hz audio note’ which led me to this site that provides a 1-hour recording of an 82Hz note. With this playing in one ear of my BT headphones, and listening the belt note with the other, I was able to determine that my belt ‘note’ was pretty close to 82Hz – all without using the app at all. Prusa probably paid somebody a lot of money to develop a fancy phone app that is, in the words of a Texas cattleman, “All hat and no cattle”.

Chapter 6: xLCD assembly:

Apparently Prusa Mk4 kits utilize at least two physically different xLCD boards with correspondingly different 3D printed mounting parts, so the kit builder needs to know which version they have to know which set of instructions to follow. The key difference is where one of the cables is attached to the board with a ‘Faston’ (spade lug) connector, as shown in the screenshots below:

If you have Version A (which I did), then follow Step 3 xLCD assembly (version A): through Step 11 Connecting the PE cable (version A). If you have version B, skip to Step 12 xLCD assembly (version B):

Step 6 Installing the xReflector sticker (Version A):

Looking through the comments, I found a warning to not cut off the excess length from the reflective sticker, as there was already a perforation across one end that can be pulled off after the sticker is in place. Maybe this was put there as a ‘handle’, but Prusa never told anyone about it?

Reflective sticker with a perforation at one end

Here are some photos showing the sticker application process:

Protective cover pulled back slightly
Small section of reflective tape in place at one end of ‘trough’
Halfway there…
Finished! Note the ‘handle’ section stayed with the protective layer

Step 7 Assembling the xLCD-support-right (Version A)

This step turns out to be one of those where you really need three hands – using only two always leaves something out to slip away – rats!

Builder doug commented: The time you take to “practice” this step in advance will pay off with an easy installation. Do yourself a favor and test-fit everything first. Pre-tap the screw holes by running the M3x8 at least halfway into each hole. Ream out the 3 holes in the supports with the M3x8 to make sure they don’t bind. Make sure the support-right piece fits correctly into the little cutout. Some screens drop straight in, others will need to be angled in bottom-first. Tolerances are very tight here. If you have a little bit of reflective tape sticking out over the inner edge, trim it back. Try dropping the screen in without the support to see how it fits. Make sure the USB port sits all the way down in the socket. Only when you’re sure everything goes where it needs to should you do the actual assembly. Leave all the screws at least 2-3 turns loose until everything is in place, then slowly tighten each one evenly until they’re all seated.

I took this to heart, and used a 3x30mm screw to test each hole for proper fit, as shown in the following photo:

Testing each hole by screwing in a 3×30 (for ease of handling) several turns

Then, after sleeping on the problem overnight, I realized that I actually had a third hand, if I could place the assembly on something that was raised up enough from my work surface to accommodate the shaft of the selector control. I got up the next morning and looked around my space, and realized that the perfect ‘something’ was the box the xLCD assembly came in, as shown in the following photo:

After getting the ‘-right-support’ part mounted successfully, the ‘-left-support’ piece went on fairly easily. Here’s the (almost – still missing the ‘faston’ connector) completed assembly

Completed xLCD assembly

Step 30 Guiding the Z motor right cable

It took me a while to understand what the instructions were saying on this step. The instructions talk about forming a loop, and then about the motor cable going through both loops – huh? I guess that can be an issue with assembly instructions written by a Czech speaker and then translated into English. Anyway, here are some photos for how I think it should work

Zip tie goes through top hole from left to right, then around motor cable, then back through lower hole. Note the orientation of the zip tie head
Zip tie partially clinched
Zip tie fully clinched and excess removed

Step 41 Time for energy delivery

At this point all the critical wiring harness routing and connections have been accomplished. Here are a bunch of pictures of my printer at this point. In particular, I routed the Y-axis motor cable a bit differently than per the assembly manual, as (like at least one other builder) I didn’t like having the cable cross the open space between the rear frame panel and the main frame cast piece. I have hopefully provided plenty of documentation to show the result. The photos show a general progression from ‘preliminary’ (with zip ties engaged but not cinched) to ‘final’ (with everything cinched down as closely as I felt reasonable. Enjoy your gummy bears!

23 June 2024 Update:

When I got to the part where the Y-carriage is mounted onto the frame, I realized why re-routing the Y-axis motor cable was a BAD idea. This interferes with the rear rod mount on the left (two bearing) side of the Y-carriage assembly. Had to go back and UNre-route this cable 🙁

When I got to the part where the Y-carriage is mounted onto the frame I realized why re-routing the Y-axis motor cable was a BAD

Preliminary (zip ties still loose)
Preliminary (zip ties still loose)
Preliminary (zip ties still loose)
Rerouting the Y-axis cable
rerouting the Y-axis cable
Preliminary (zip ties still loose)
Final (zip ties cinched and ends removed)
Final (zip ties cinched and ends removed)
Final (zip ties cinched and ends removed)

Chapter 7 Y-carriage & Heatbed assembly

Step 23 Inserting smooth rods into Y-carriage

The part of this step where the builder tightens the bearing clips while moving the rods to watch for binding is the familiar ‘I need three hands’ situation. I solved this problem by (lightly, to avoid damage) C-clamping the Y-carriage to my work surface, as shown in the following photo. That way I could slide a bearing rod back and forth with one hand while slowly tightening the screws on the associated bearing clip(s)

Step 26 Installing the Y-carriage

It was at this point in the project that I noticed that the LCD cable and PE wire from the front panel assembly was hanging down to the point where it would probably touch whatever surface the printer was mounted to – not good! So, I used up one of the spare zip ties to pull these two cables up against the bottom of the frame, as shown in the following two pictures.

Step 31 Attaching the Y belt holder

This one threw me for a bit, as I didn’t see how the part could possibly fit as described. I went back and forth over the directions and photos several times, and FINALLY figured it out. Because there were many comments about breaking the part by screwing in the belt-end locking screw too far, I only screwed mine in about halfway. Then, when I tried to attach the part to the Y-carriage frame, it wouldn’t go because the screwhead interfered. It wasn’t until I twigged to this picture from the directions:

That I noticed that the head of the belt-end capture screw was flush with (or even a little below) the surface of the part – DUH!!

The next ‘trick’ was to figure out how to actually mount the part to the Y-carriage frame. As it turns out, the little lip circled in red above fits over the left (toward the back of the printer) edge of the center plate of the Y-carriage. If that lip is snug against the side of the center plate, then the mounting screw will be lined up with the threaded hole in the plate. So, the part should be set up as shown below before attempting to mount the part to the plate:

Belt holder part ready for mounting to the Y-carriage center plate. The belt-end capture screw head is flush with the surface of the part, and the mounting screw protrudes only a few mm.

24 June 2024 Update: Final Thoughts

I finished the printer last night, but had other activities this morning, so I didn’t get a chance to actually try it out until this evening.

Following the ‘Preflight’ instructions, I was able to connect the Mk4 to my PC via the ‘PrusaLink’ wireless link, and transfer a print file from the PC to the printer; this worked seamlessly, and quickly (although it was a fairly small model) too! I was also able to use the Prusa slicer configuration wizard to add the Mk4 printer to my available printer configurations – also nice.

I printed a 20cm Cal cube which came out wonderfully, and then I tried my (or at least my printer’s) hand at the Benchy model that came on the Prusa USB card. Here’s a photo of them both together on the Mk4 print plate, and also a time-lapse video of the Benchy being printed

Amazing quality prints!

I purchased a Mk3 kit in early 2019 and enjoyed (mostly) building and using it. Over the years I upgraded it to the ‘S+’ model with a 0.6mm extruder. It has been a very reliable over the years, and even when it got into trouble (like with the dreaded blob-of-death) I had no problem tearing it down and putting it back together again. Now that I have my Mk4 running, I look forward to even better performance and reliability, and I’m sure I will be able to find a good home for My Mk3S+

30 June 2024 Update:

It’s been a week since I got my Mk4 assembled, and I have to say it has been a joy to use – even more so than my trusty Mk3S+. I’d like to emphasize that after finishing the last step of the assembly guide, eating all remaining Haribos, and installing the orange Nextruder silicone sock, My Mk4 has printed like a dream, with absolutely no adjustment required. I’m a hobbyist/engineer/tinkerer, so I don’t do a whole lot of printing, but to me that makes it more important – not less – that prints don’t require a lot of setup time. Here’s my current ‘menagerie’ after one week.

In particular, I’d like to call attention to the 10mm bolt and nut pictured above, along with a real 10mm bolt and nut. The real nut is on the printed bolt, and the printed nut is on the real bolt. The printed bolt and nut were both printed using the stock Mk4 ‘0.15mm SPEED’ configuration for PLA and were designed in ‘OnShape’ using the OnShape ‘ThreadCutter’ extension. If you haven’t used OnShape, I suggest you give it a try.

Stay tuned,

Frank

FlashForge Creator PRO 2 IDEX GUI Issues

Posted 30 August 2022

Exactly one year ago I posted about receiving my then-new FlashForge Creator PRO 2 IDEX 3D printer. Since then I have made many successful prints and have been very happy with the machine. Then just a few weeks ago I started having serious problems with prints not sticking to my flexible build plate. Such problems occur regularly with 3D printers, and they are usually fairly easy to troubleshoot and fix, but this time I found that the touch-screen GUI on the FFCP2 IDEX machine to be more of a hindrance than a help in working my way through the problem. This post describes the issues I encountered and some suggested changes to the GUI to resolve them. The firmware used is the latest version, V1.8.

Extruder Z-axis Offset Calibration:

One of the most common problems for non-sticking prints is the extruder Z-axis offset. If the offset is too large, the filament won’t contact the print bed with enough area to adhere the first layer, and this can cause the BOD (ball of death) as the filament balls up around the extruder. When I do this procedure on my Prusa MK3S+ single-extruder printer, the display shows the current offset so adjustments can be made from a known starting position. Unfortunately the FFCP2 GUI for some reason forces the user to calibrate both extruders every time, and starts by setting the offset on both extruders to +2mm, undoubtedly to make sure the nozzles are well away from the print bed. This also erases the existing offset value, so there is no way to slightly ‘tweak’ the offset value one way or the other – the offsets have to be set from the beginning every time. For first-time users, this might be OK, but for experienced printers it is a royal PITA.

Imagine you have done some minor maintenance on the right extruder, but the left extruder is printing perfectly. Now you need to recalibrate the right extruder, but don’t want to mess with your finely-tuned left extruder. Nope – can’t do that. As soon as you select ‘Z axis Calibration’ you are doomed! The offset values for both extruders fly out the window and you are back to using the supplied plastic spacer to calibrate both extruders ‘by feel’. Doesn’t matter that you had that left extruder all dialed in – you are hosed!

Or, maybe you are happily running PETG on both extruders, but now you want to make a print that requires a dissolvable filament, like AquaSys120 or similar. You change out the filament on one extruder and make a test print using just the dissolvable filament and find it either isn’t extruding at all (offset too close to the bed) or more likely isn’t adhering to the bed due to subtle differences in the texture/stickiness of AquaSys120 filament vs PETG. You know the way to fix this is to slowly vary the z-offset of the AquaSys120 extruder, but you don’t want to mess with the nicely printing PETG extruder. Sorry – go directly to jail, do not pass GO, and do not collect $200.

The only way to handle either of these scenarios is to have already recorded the old Z offset values for both extruders (and who does that?) so you can go through the you must calibrate both every time procedure, dial both extruder offsets to where you had them before, and then adjust slightly from there. Make sure you write the new values down, because if you want to make the next tweak or you make a filament change a month from now, you have to start all over again – ARGGHHHH!

As I mentioned above, this might be OK for first-time users, but becomes a royal PITA for more experienced users. The FFCP2 does have an ‘Advanced’ menu, but this menu only handles X and Y axis tweaks – not the Z axis. This menu should be revised to allow the Z-offset for either extruder to be set independently, and should offer options to start from the default (+2mm) location or from the current z-axis offset position.

Z-axis Calibration Delays Due to Extruder Cooling Requirement:

When troubleshooting a printing problem, I might go through several Z-axis calibration procedures. However, each time I start the procedure, the printer forces me to wait for the extruders to cool to room temperature, which takes several minutes – ARGHHH! This is stupid for two reasons; first, I would think I’d want to calibrate the Z-axis offset at the normal operational temperature to take any temperature-related mechanical changes into consideration, not at room temp. Second, if FlashForge decided that any such mechanical changes were inconsequential, then it shouldn’t matter at what temperature the procedure is conducted, and so there shouldn’t be any delay at all. This seems to be just one of those things where the programmer decided the process should always start with room temperature extruders and never gave any thought to the tradeoff between programming ease and customer frustration.

Print File Names:

The ‘Print’ menu shows a partial list of the available print files, and allows the user to scroll up and down the list as necessary. However, as shown in the following photos, print file names are truncated after N characters, so similarly named files (I use version numbers a lot) all look the same. Moreover, when a file is actually selected by tapping on the name, it still isn’t shown full length. My Prusa MK3S+ printer has the same problem, but solves it by repeatedly scrolling through the name.

Print file list. Notice how similar they are, because the differences are later in the name
Selected print file name is also truncated – you have to just hope you have picked the correct one!

Conclusion:

The FlashForge Creator PRO 2 IDEX printer is a great printer, and I have gotten many many good prints from it over the last year. Even with the frustrations associated with the less-than-perfect GUI, I don’t regret trading down from my previous MakerGear M3-ID Independent Dual Extruder (IDEX) machine. However, I believe the GUI was not given the care and resources it needed to be a first-class example of a 3D printer user interface, and should be updated. If it remains in this ‘sort-of-OK-sort-of-clunky’ state, I think it will sour a lot of 3D makers off the FlashForge brand.

Flashforge could actually kill two birds with one stone if they were to open-source the GUI code; then users like myself who are frustrated with the current performance could collaborate in making it better.

Stay tuned,

Frank

Transitioning from TinkerCad to Blender with CAD Sketcher

Posted 6 August 2022

I have been been doing 3D printing (a ‘Maker’ in modern jargon) for almost a decade now, and almost all my designs started out life in TinkerCad – Autodesk’s wonderful online 3D design tool. As I mentioned in my 2014 post comparing AutoDesk’s TinkerCad and 123d Design offerings, TinkerCad is simple and easy to use, powerful due to its large suite of primitive 3D objects and manipulation features, but runs out of gas when dealing with rounded corners, internal fillets, arbitrary chamfers and other sophisticated mesh manipulation options.

Consequently, I have been keeping an eye out for more modern alternatives to TinkerCad – something with the horsepower to do more sophisticated mesh modeling, but still simple enough for an old broke-down engineer to learn in the finite amount of time I have left on earth. As I discovered eight years ago, AutoDesk’s 123D Design offering wasn’t the app I was looking for, but Blender, with the newly introduced CAD Sketcher and CAD Transforms add-ins, may well be. Blender seems to be aimed more at graphic artists, animators, and 3D world-builders rather than for the kind of dimension-driven precision design for 3D printing, but the CAD Sketcher and CAD Transforms add-ons go a long way toward providing explicit dimension-driven precision 3D design tools for us maker types.

I ran across the Blender app several months ago and started looking for online tutorials; the first one I found was the famous ‘Donut Tutorial’ by Blender Guru. After several tries and a large amount of frustration due to the radical GUI changes between Blender 2.x and 3.x, I was able to get most of the way through to making a donut. Unfortunately for me, the donut tutorial didn’t really address dimension-driven 3D models at all, so while the tutorial was kinda fun, it didn’t really address my issue. Then I ran across Maker Tales Jonathan Kobylanski’s demo of the CAD Sketcher V0.24 Blender add-on, and I became convinced that Blender might well be a viable TinkerCad replacment.

So, I worked my way through Jonathan’s CAD Sketcher 0.24 tutorial, and as usual got in trouble several times due to my ignorance of basic Blender GUI techniques. After posting about my problems, Jonathan was kind enough to point me at his paid “How To Use Blender For 3D Printing” 10-lesson series for $124USD. I signed right up, and so far have worked (and I do mean worked!) my way through the first six lessons. I have to say this may be the best money I’ve ever spent on self-education (and at my advanced age, that is saying a LOT 🙂 ). In particular, Jonathan starts off with the assumption that the student knows absolutely NOTHING about Blender (which was certainly true in my case) and shows how to set the program up with precision 3D modeling in mind. All lessons are extensively documented, with video, audio, and all keypresses fully described. At first I was more than a little intimidated by the deluge of short-cut keys (and still am a little bit), but Jonathan’s lessons expose the viewer to slightly more bite-size chunks than the normal fire-hose method, so I was able to stay more or less on the same continent with him as he moved through the design step. I also found it extremely helpful to go back through the first few lessons several times (very easy to do with the academy.makertales.com lesson layout), even to the point of playing and replaying particular steps until I was comfortable with whatever procedure was being taught. There is a MakerTales Discord server and a channel dedicated to helping academy students, and Jonathan seems to be pretty responsive in responding to my (usually clueless) comments and pleas for help.

Jonathan encourages his students to go beyond the lessons and to modify or extend the particular focus of any lesson, so I decided to try and use Blender/CAD Sketcher for a small project I have been considering. My main PC is a Dell XPS15 laptop, connected to two 24″ monitors via a Dell WD19TBS Thunderbolt docking station. I have the monitors on 4″ risers, but found they still weren’t high enough for comfortable viewing and seating ergonomics, so I designed (in TCAD, several years ago) a set of riser risers as shown in the image below

My two-display setup. Note the red ‘riser elevators’ under the metal display risers
Closeup showing the built-in shelf for my XPS 15 laptop

As shown above, the ‘riser elevator design incorporates a built-in shelf for my XPS15 laptop. This has worked well for years, but recently I have been looking for ways to simplify/neaten up my workspace. I found that I could move my junk tray from the side of my work area to the currently unused space underneath my laptop, but with the current arrangement there isn’t enough clearance above the tray to see/access the stuff in the back. I was originally thinking of simply replacing the current 3D printed risers with new ones 40mm higher, but in an ‘aha!’ moment I realized I didn’t have to replace the risers – I could simply add another riser on top. The new piece would mate with the current riser vertical tab that keeps the laptop from sliding sideways, and then replicate the same vertical tab, but 40mm higher.

Doing either the re-designed riser or the add-on would be trivial in TinkerCad, but I thought it would be a good project to try in Blender, now that I have some small inkling of what I’m doing there. So, after the normal number of screwups, I came up with a fully-defined sketch for a small test piece (I fully subscribe to Jonathan’s “When in doubt – test it out” philosophy), as shown:

CAD Sketcher sketch for the test piece. Same as the final piece, except for height

I then 3D printed on my Prusa MK3S printer. Halfway through the print job I realized I didn’t need the full 20mm thickness to test the geometry, so I stopped it midway through and placed it on top of one of the original risers, as shown in the following photo:

Maybe not completely perfect, but still a pretty good fit

After convincing myself that the design was going to work, I modified the sketch for the full 40mm height I wanted, and printed 4ea out, as shown:

CAD Sketcher sketch for the full-height version
4ea full-size riser add-on pieces

After installation, I now have my laptop higher by 40mm, and better/easier access to my junk tray as shown – success!

Finished project. Laptop higher by 40mm, junk tray now much more accessible

And more than that, I have now developed enough confidence in Blender/CAD Sketcher to move my 3D print designs there rather than relying strictly on TinkerCad. Thanks Jonathan!

16 August 2022 Update:

Just finished Learning Project 7: Stackable Storage Crate, and my brain is bulging at the seams – whew! After finishing, I just had to try printing one (or two, if I want to see whether or not I really got the nesting geometry right), even though each print is something over 13 hours on my Prusa MK3S with a 0.6mm nozzle. Here’s the result:

Hot off the printer – after “only” 13 hours!
Underside showing stacking groove. Printed without supports, just using bridging

Frank

FlashForge Creator PRO 2 IDEX Filament/Color Designator Project

Posted 29 July 2022

I’ve had my Flashforge Creator PRO 2 IDEX 3D printer for a while now, and ever since Jaco Theron and I got the Prusa Slicer Configuration for this printer working, I have been enjoying trouble-free (as much as any 3D printer is ‘trouble-free’) dual-color printing.

However, there are some ‘gotchas’ that can make using this printer annoying.

  • The way that the FFCP2 filament spools are arranged on the back of the printer means that the filament from the left spool feeds the right extruder, and vice versa, which leads to confusion about which filament feeds what extruder
  • The printer configuration in the slicer refers to the left extruder as ‘Extruder 2, the left extruder temperature as ‘T1’, the right extruder as ‘Extruder 1, the right extruder temperature as ‘T0’, so I’m never sure which physical extruder I’m dealing with when setting up for a print.
  • The filament spools are located at the rear of the printer, so it’s impossible to tell what filament type is loaded without physically rotating the whole printer, removing the spool from the holder, and looking at the label. And, since my short-term memory is about equal to that of a amoeba, I wind up doing this multiple times.

So, I decided to see what I could do to ameliorate this issue. The first thing I did was to use my handy-dandy Brother label maker to label the left and right extruders with their respective designations in the software, as shown in the photo below.

The next thing was to use my newly-acquired Blender super-powers to create and install removable filament color/type tags to both sides so I would no longer have to rely on my crappy memory to know what filament type and color was loaded on each side, as shown in the following photo.

Filament type and color tags for each extruder

The type/color tags slide into slots in the plate holders, and the plate holders are mounted using the FFCP2′ 4mm hex-head front plate mounting screws. I printed up tags for all my normal colors and filament types and store them inside the printer (the red box seen inside the printer on the left-hand side). Then, when I change a spool, I change the tags to match the new filament type & color.

Project to Create 3D Clay Cubes

Posted 26 June 2022,

Got an interesting request from a fellow Duplicate Bridge player the other day. I was asked if I could somehow create a way to produce precise cubes of modeling clay. Of course, since I am the proud owner of not just one, but two 3D printers (a FlashForge Creator Pro II IDEX and a Prusa MK3S), I said “sure, no sweat! How many would you like?”

As usual, once I got home and started playing around with the project, I realized that I had, once again, jumped into the pool without first checking to see if there was any water. Turns out that the garden variety modeling clay is pretty gooey stuff, and sticks to EVERYTHING, including 3D printed PLA/PETG forms. But hey – a project that just falls together without any drama isn’t much of a project, is it?

Anyway, I adopted my usual tactic of “fail quickly, fail often” (Space X has nothing on me!) to home in on something that might produce what I was after. My first thought was a simple rectangular cylinder with inner dimensions matching the desired clay cube dimensions, combined with a press that just barely slides into the cylinder, as shown below:

This worked OK, but had some drawbacks. The original press with just a simple cylindrical handle really didn’t allow for much pressure without hurting my hand, so I added a ‘squashed ball’ top to make that easier, and added some length to the extrusion die to produce a longer extruded clay blank, which I intended to cut to length with an Exacto knife. Again, this worked OK, but not spectacularly; as can be seen in the last of the above photos, the extruded blank exhibited some grooves created by some errant pieces of filament.

My next thought was to use a long rectangular cylinder not as an extrusion die, but just as a removable form; after pressing clay into the form with the press, the form would be cut away to access the clay blank, which would then be cut to length as before. However, this would require a new form for every blank, so that wasn’t great. Then I hit upon the idea of making the form out of nested pieces, as shown below:

Idea for nested pieces to create a removable form

While the print turned out very well, the result of having four removable sides was kind of a mess – very difficult to get together (and then somehow bind/tape the thing together)

Next I tried a similar ‘removable form’ idea, but with just two removable pieces rather than four, and an end-piece as well.

Two-piece form with end cap

This didn’t work very well either, because the two pieces could easily slide against each other, making it impossible to keep the desired shape. So, I tried again but used a notch and cutout feature to keep the pieces aligned, as shown below

This worked well enough that I decided to try forming a cube with my Sculpey clay and my press. To start, I wrapped the form with nylon filament strapping tape to withstand the press pressure, and started loading clay balls into the form. This actually worked fairly well, but when I pulled the form apart, the clay stuck to the walls and deformed badly.

Back to the web to research release agents for modeling clay, and found this site that specifically recommended water as a release agent for Sculpey clay – yay!

So, I tried again to form a cube, as shown below:

This time I got a pretty nice cube, with each side almost exactly 19mm or 3/4″ – yay!

So at this point it’s time to consult with my bridge club friend and find out if this really what they want. Stay tuned!

29 July 2022 Update:

Got some feedback from my ‘customer’ today. She liked the split-form implementation, but would like to try a 1x1x1 inch cube instead of the 3/4×3/4×3/4 we started with. So, I went back to TCad and ‘whipped up’ (well, for me, ‘whipping up takes a while…) the new version shown below:

1x1x1″ Clay Cube Press
Cube press showing split halves with registration notch

Frank

FlashForge Creator Pro 2 IDEX Profile for Prusa Slicer 2.3

Posted 12 September 2021

I recently sold my MakerGear M3-ID and replaced it with a FlashForge Creator Pro 2 IDEX (FFCP2) model. The M3-ID was a great printer, but I could never get it to reliably print with dissolvable filaments. Since that was the entire reason I got the printer, I was more than a little bummed out. After viewing some very positive YT reviews of the FFCP2, I decided to sell the M3-ID and used the proceeds to buy my new FFCP2.

The new printer allowed me to successfully print water soluble PVA with PLA pretty much right away using the FlashPrint5 slicer that comes with the printer. However, after a few prints I started looking for ways to use the printer with either Simplify3D or with the Prusa Slicer, as the FlashPrint5 software is pretty buggy and suffers from really poor GUI design (for instance, the only way to specify the support extruder is via a right-click option in the plater view). This post is a description of my efforts so far to make this happen.

Some web research revealed that there was a FFCP2 profile for the Simplify3D (S3D) slicer floating around. This sounded like a good start, as I had S3D from well before from my PowerSpec 3D Pro (FlashForge dual extruder knockoff marketed by MicroCenter) days, and later with the M3-ID. In response to my emailed request, S3D sent me their FlashForge Creator Pro 2 17MR21.zip file containing just one file – FlashForge Creator Pro 2 17MR21.fff. After loading this into S3D, I was able to print a storage rack for a metric nut driver set fairly easily using a PVA dissolvable support structure.

So, now I could get away from the stupid FlashPrint5 slicer, but what I really wanted was a workable profile for Prusa Slicer 2.3. I use this slicer with my Prusa MK3S single-extruder printer, and I love it. Also, it is open-source, and quite actively developed by Prusa Research. Unfortunately, nobody seems to have developed a profile for PS2, and the process of doing so is not straightforward, at least to me.

After a LOT of reading through the Prusa FAQs and other support documents, I discovered there is already a profile available for a dual-extruder printer – the BIBO printer, so I thought I would try adapting it to use with the PS2. Here’s the BIBO profile, edited to change ‘BIBO’ to FFCP2 and other minor stuff.

By placing this file (FlashForge.ini) in

C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Roaming\PrusaSlicer\vendor 

I was able to get Prusa Slicer to recognize the new profile and load it. However, when I tried to print a small 20mm cube (one that I had printed successfully using S3D), it appeared that the right extruder and the bed heated up properly and the movement codes were reasonable, but I wasn’t getting any filament extruded onto the bed.

Comparing the gcode from S3D with the gcode for the same model but sliced in PS, I found the following:

  • The beginning of the start g-code sections were identical (no surprise, as I had copied the start/end gcode from S3D to PS), but the PS2 file had the following lines added

After that, both files contained LOTS of G1 commands, so I got lost pretty quickly. However, I could see that the PS code definitely contained code that should have pushed filament out of the extruder, as shown below:

But this code doesn’t actually extrude enough filament to make the model, as shown in the following photo:

Very faint filament extrustion – should be a skirt with a solid 20mm x 20mm square.

I posted this problem to the Prusa Slicer section on the Prusa forum, and got a reply that triggered off yet another search through all the various slicer settings to see if there was something that might affect this issue. This time, however, I found a setting in the ‘Advanced’ section of the ‘General’ page on the ‘Printer Settings’ tab, as shown below:

The ‘Use relative E distances’ box was checked. UNchecking it fixed the problem

After UNchecking the ‘Use relative E distances’ box, the demo cube started printing correctly – yay!

After UNchecking the ‘Use relative E distances’ checkbox (deliberately stopped after several layers)

The Prusa-supplied informational flyover associated with this setting said ‘most firmwares use absolute E distances’ and ‘the default is absolute’ , so now I had to figure out where this unusual setting was coming from – the .INI file?

So, it turns out that the FlashForge.ini file, which I ported from the BIBO.ini file, did indeed have ‘use_relative_e_distances = 1’ in the [printer:*common*] section (and in a couple of other places as well). So, I edited the .INI file to change these settings from ‘1’ to ‘0’ and then closed and re-launched PS2 to confirm that the proper value changes were being picked up from the INI file.

There is still (at least) one mystery remaining, in that the little ‘padlock’ icon at the top of the ‘Printer Settings’ page still shows an ‘unlocked’ condition, even immediately after the initial load from the INI file. Don’t know why this is, but at least I’m one more step toward my goal of having a working FFCP2 profile for the PS2 slicer. Here’s the current .INI file contents:

15 September 2021 Update:

When I tried printing a simple 2-color 20x20x10mm cube using S3D, the actual print came out all in one color, even though I could see what I thought was a tool change gcode command in the gcode file. However, when I did this same thing in FlashPrint (FP5), it came out OK. So, I looked at the gcode commands in the .gx file emitted by FP5 and saw the following (after the binary thumbnail image code)

This shows that the FP5 slicer is using considerably different g-codes than S3D or Prusa Slicer. In particular I was dumbfounded by the first line – M118 X30.00 Y30.00 Z10.10 T0 T1 When I looked up the M118 command, it shows as a ‘serial print’ command, basically like “echo” in BASIC or other script languages. This clearly not right, as the M118 command used here is describing the overall dimensions of the model to be printed, including the skirt. Even after extensive web searches, I was unable to find much that described the syntax for the FlashForge usage of this command, except for one post in the Simplify 3D forum, talking about the FlashForge Adventurer 3, which had the following:

So, it appears that if this line is placed in the startup g-code section of S3D, then it will be placed in the start section of the gcode file, with the {} parameters replaced by the maximum X, Y, & Z values. I’m not sure that is actually what I want, as the FP5 output seems to be the entire size of the model, not just the half-dimensions.

16/17 September 2021

In my continuing quest to get my FFCP2 functioning with Prusa Slicer, I have been going back and forth between FlashPrint5 (FP5) – FlashForge’s proprietary slicer, Simplify3D which purports to have a FFCP2 profile, and Prusa Slicer, which purports to have a way of adding ‘vendor bundles’ to its configuration. Yesterday I managed somehow to screw up the S3D configuration so that it no longer prints with the right extruder at all, and in fact appears to be extruding from the left extruder while moving the right one – weird!

So, this morning I went back to basics and reprinted the 20x20x10 two-color cube .gx file from FP5, and verified that it worked properly – yay!

Next I reloaded the original unmodified S3D profile (FlashForge Creator Pro 2 17MR21) back onto S3D and printed the cube again using only the left extruder. This also appeared to work fine.

Next I tried the same cube using the original unmodified S3D profile and just the right extruder. This also worked fine.

Next I tried a two-color print in S3D using two processes – ‘LeftTop’ and ‘RightBottom’. I set ‘RightBottom’ to ‘Right Extruder Only’ and ‘stop printing at 3mm’. I set ‘LeftTop’ to ‘Left Extruder Only’ and ‘start printing at 3mm’. Then I selected ‘Prepare to Print’ and ‘Select All’ for process selection, but this time I said ‘Yes’ to ‘The selected process is not configured for the number of extruders you have chosen to use’, instead of the ‘No’ response I had selected before this test. When I did this, the print preview looked proper, with the right extruder shown for the bottom 3mm, and the left extruder shown for the top portion. However, the actual print failed – the bottom 3mm printed normally, but the right extruder continued ‘air printing’ after 3mm, and the left extruder first clashed with the right one, and then ‘air printed’ off to the left, like it was doing a duplicate print

I sent an email off to S3D support regarding this issue, and got a reply back saying that the problem was related to me changing the gcode flavor from ‘FlashForge Dreamer Firmware’ to ‘Makerbot’. So, I changed it back by reloading the original Flashforge profile, and tried this trick again. Got exactly the same result – the two heads crashed on the tool change.

Then I had an inspiration and tried using S3D’s ‘dual extrusion wizard’. First I created a 20x20x3mm solid in TinkerCad, loaded the model into S3D, and then duplicated it to get two separate cubes. Then I used the ‘dual extrusion wizard’ to stack the two pieces and assign them to different extruders. This worked great – yay!

So next I tried looking at the difference between the print file that worked (210917_20x3mm_S3D_DualExtWizV1.g) and the one that didn’t (20mm_2col_S3DorigFFProfile.g) and it basically boiled down to the startup gcode, and the tool changeover code. Here’s the startup code section:

The 4 commented-out lines are from the non-working print file, and the uncommented lines are from the file that worked. As can be seen, the working file set both extruders to operating temperature at the start, even though the left (T1) extruder isn’t used until the changeover point. Here’s the changeover code:

The commented-out M-commands were my attempt to get the left extruder up to temp but for some unknown reason I couldn’t get that to work. The line

was added to manually park the right extruder, as this was not done automatically by S3D (in fact, AFAICT the 2-process setup doesn’t even consider that each process could use a different extruder). The ‘M108T1’ command is the same as the one found in the ‘Dual Extruder Wizard’ print file. With the above changes, I was able to successfully print the 20x20x20mm cube with the first 3mm printed by the right extruder and the remainder printed by the left extruder, as shown in the following photo:

Successful print using the ‘2-process’ method, with manual edits as described above.

So, to summarize progress to date, I believe I have figured out that the ‘dual extruder wizard’ in S3D does a good job of handling the extruder switch, but the ‘manual multiple process’ method does not. I also figured out that – contrary to a number of web postings about the FFCP2, at least the S3D profile with it’s ‘FlashForge Dreamer Firmware’ setting for gcode flavor is correct.

22 March 2022 Update:

Early this month ‘jacotheron’ posted a comment to this article, asking if I would share my Prusa Slicer work so far. I said ‘sure’ and sent him off the FlashForge.ini file I had created by copying the BIBO printer configuration and editing it. This exchange started a long conversation between me and Jaco Theron of South Africa. Jaco was also interested in using the Prusa Slicer software to run a FlashForge Creator Pro 2 IDEX machine, and being a heck of lot smarter than me, he was actually making significant progress! In just a few days he had a working version of a Python script to convert PS gcode output to the required *.gx format required by FFCP2. Of course I volunteered to test it, and once again embarked on a new voyage of discovery.

Jaco had already put together a very complete GitHub repo for this purpose, and the Readme documented the required support software installation (Python and a couple of extensions). First and foremost, I didn’t know Python and didn’t have it on my Windows 10 system. After some inet research I felt like I knew enough to take a stab at doing the installation. Of course, even with Jaco’s very detailed instructions, I managed to run into several potholes on my way to Python nirvana.

The first step is to download and install Python (3.10.3 is the latest version) from https://www.python.org/downloads/. However, since I almost always accept all the default selections when installing a new program, I didn’t check the ‘Add Python to your PATH statement’ checkbox and boy did that leave a mark! Because I hadn’t checked this box, The ‘post-processor’ command in the FlashForge.ini file couldn’t find Python, and I couldn’t even run it from a normal command-line console. I tried modifying the PATH statement myself (you’d think that would be easy – what could possibly go wrong?) and again failed – Rats! Somewhere along the line I picked up on the fact that Python was also available from the Microsoft store – so I though “Aha – that’s the ticket! So, I uninstalled Python, and re-installed it from the store. That installed fine, and I wasn’t asked about the PATH statement, so I think Microsoft did that by default. Nope – it didn’t, and now I could not only not run Python from the command line, but apparently the Microsoft version was well out-of-date – bummer! Alright, so next I uninstalled Python (anyone keeping score?) and re-installed again from Python.org, being VERY CAREFUL to check the ‘add Python to PATH’ option, and this time it all seemed to work – yay!

One good thing did result from all my thrashing around – I learned about using the Python ‘pip’ command to install and update other packages like Pillow (also required for the Python script). Here’s a screenshot showing this process:

Python Command Window: Installing Pillow and upgrading pip

The next part of the process involved placing the FlashForge.ini and the Python post processor script ‘ff-creator-post-processor.py’ in their respective locations, and then modifying the the FlashForge.ini file’s ‘post-processor’ line to point to the Python script. I used the ReadMe recommendations from Jaco’s Github repo directly for the location of these two files, as shown below:

FlashForge.ini location
Python post-processing script location

And the modification to the ‘post-process’ line (line 80) in FlashForge.ini:

If you use the folder locations as I have above, you should be able to use this post-process line, changing only ‘Frank’ above to your user name, (and possibly ‘Python310’ to ‘Python311’ or ‘Python32’ or whatever is current at that time).

After getting all this to work, there was one more hurdle (or maybe two if you count the Prusa Slicer ideosyncracy described below); The FlashForge Creator Pro 2 firmware does not like long filenames, and Prusa Slicer loves them. Once Jaco figured out what was happening, he modified the post-processing script to shorten them to something the printer could handle. What this means to the typical PS user is – Don’t freak out when the filename you thought you were getting is not what is on the SD card! There was one last hiccup in this regard when I used the default filename for a 3D Benchy print, which came out as

after the post-processing step. This produced the dreaded “file opened failed” error when I tried to print it. When I shortened the filename to ‘_3DBenchyDualPrint.gx’ it printed fine. I passed this along to Jaco, and he has undoubtedly fixed this problem by now.

So, after all this, I was able to print my first ‘Benchy’ in dual-color splendor. Actually it was a pretty crappy print, but it certainly showed me why Jaco recommends enabling the ‘draft shield’ option as shown below:

My first real 2-color print using Prusa Slicer – unfortunately with ‘Draft Shield’ disabled
How to enable the ‘Draft Shield’ option

For the life of me I couldn’t figure out why this option was called ‘draft shield’ when its purpose seemed to be a lot more like an ‘ooze shield’. I finally twigged to the idea that the ‘draft’ in ‘draft shield’ related to wind drafts causing the print to cool off too quickly. However, this puts an image in my head of someone trying to do 3D prints on their front porch in a high wind, but what do I know 😛

One last thing. Prusa Slicer has a couple of idiosyncrasies that you normally don’t see until you start working with multiple extruders. The first (and most frustrating) one is that Prusa Slicer refuses to allow objects on the build plate to be moved in the Z-direction, which means you can’t stack parts to do a simple 2-color cube, for instance. There is a trick, however. First you add the first part to the print bed, then right-click on that part and select ‘Add Part’ from the context menu. Then add the second part from the resulting dialog. The part added this way can be moved in the Z-direction. It’s a kludge, but it works.

The second idiosyncrasy is even crazier. When multiple extruders are defined, a ‘phantom’ part appears on the print bed, as shown below:

Where did that come from?

As you can see, this part isn’t on the object list on the right, and it cannot be deleted! As it turns out, however, this catastrophe is caused by Prusa Slicer having ‘Wipe Tower’ enabled by default for multiple extruder prints, and not also placing it in the object list to give us poor users a chance to figure out where it came from. To rid yourself of this plague, disable ‘Wipe Tower’ as shown:

Disable ‘Wipe Tower’ to rid yourself of the ‘phantom part’

So, thanks to Jaco Theron’s hard work, those of us with FlashForge Creator Pro 2 IDEX printers now have a pretty reasonable (and getting better by the minute) free alternative to the truly dreadful FlashPrint5 that comes with this printer. Thanks Jaco!

Just as an aside, I’m an old broke-down retired engineer from the 70’s, so much of my professional life was spent without benefit of the internet.  Every so often now I realize how much more productive the inet makes us. How cool is it that an old fart from Ohio and a young engineer from South Africa can so easily collaborate to improve a software package written by a company in Czechoslovakia to support a completely different 3D printer.  An improvement that will be immediately available to everyone in the world!

12 August 2024 Update:

I recently acquired a new Windows 11 laptop and discovered that I no longer had the ability to use Prusa Slicer to do prints on my Flashforge Creator2 Pro IDEX printer- yikes! My choices seemed to be a) dive down the ‘rabbit hole’ to solve the problem, b) return my brand-new Dell XPS15 9530 laptop for a refund and forget the whole thing, c) commit suicide, or d) all of the above :). Because I’m a old broken down engineer with too much time on my hands I chose “a) dive down the ‘rabbit hole’ to solve the problem” (‘b’ was out because my 30-day grace period had elapsed, but I kept ‘c’ in mind too!)

Thank goodness the three-year younger version of me had the forethought to document this, as it was immensely helpful in ‘loading up the buffers’ with previous knowledge’. In particular, I had forgotten about Jaco’s Github repo, so getting that hint saved a lot of time.

Looking around on Jaco’s site, I found this ‘issue’ post – “worked in super slicer but not in prusa 2.6.1 #11′. In the comments, I found this:

I was running into a similar problem with Prusa Slicer 2.8.0.
I would put the FlashForge.ini and .idx files in …/Roaming/PrusaSlicer/cache/ and …/Roaming/PrusaSlicer/cache/vendor, but as soon as I started Prusa Slicer the files would be deleted.

Below is a workaround that finally ended up working for me:
-Close PrusaSlicer
-Remove all FlashForge files from

any folders in …/Roaming/PrusaSlicer
-Install PrusaSlicer 2.6.1
-Follow above steps detailed by @Kingston-C
:

From Kingston-C:

I believe that Prusa changed the way it reads vendors in 2.6+.

A workaround I found is to place “FlashForge.ini” inside of the PrusaSlicer’s AppData folder (typically on Windows at “C:/Users//AppData/Roaming/PrusaSlicer/cache/vendor/”). Then, in this same location, make a copy of any .idx file and rename this file to “FlashForge.idx”

I hope this helps!

-Start Prusa Slicer and add the printer
-Make sure slicing and exporting work
-Upgrade Prusa to newest version

Whatever Prusa 2.8.0 didn’t like about the .ini files seems to be fixed during the upgrade process.

The comment about PS2.8.0 not liking the older .INI file/folder arrangement rang true to me, as my old laptop was still able to process STL files for my CreatorPro2 IDEX with PS2.8.0 installed (hence my complete disbelief that the same setup didn’t work on my new laptop!).

The very first thing I did was verify (again!) that my old laptop did indeed play well with my CP2 by printing out a small calibration model – check!

The next thing was to UNinstall PS2.8.0 from my new laptop and install PS2.6.1 per the above notes. As an aside, the Prusa repo has installers for their latest (PS2.8.0), but not for earlier versions – they just offer a ZIP file. So, I didn’t so much ‘install’ PS2.6.1 as expand the ZIP file to a folder and then just run PS2.6.1 by double-clicking ‘prusa-slicer.exe’.

In my previous (unsuccessful) efforts I had installed Python 3.12.5 using the default install options (plus the ‘admin’ and PATH options), and this put python.exe way down in ‘c:\users\Frank\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python312\’, which made for a real long line in the post_process line in Flashforge.ini (to be fair, that’s what happened on my old laptop and the long path didn’t cause any problems, but….). In any case, per the above notes I chose the ‘custom install’ option this time and (with the ‘admin’ and ‘PATH’ options still checked), installed Python at ‘C:\Python312’ leading to a much more readable ‘post_process’ line in Flashforge.ini.

Next I had to install Python’s Pillow library. The ‘Readme’ does say ‘Using Command Prompt’ run the following two commands:

but I missed the ‘Command Prompt’ part and tried to run these commands from inside python – didn’t work :(. Once I figured that out and used Windows command prompt, it still didn’t work. Some more research revealed that the ‘python’ in these commands should be replaced by ‘py’, making the commands

The ‘upgrade pip’ command was a bit redundant in my case, as I had just installed the latest version of python, but the ‘upgrade Pillow’ command was absolutely necessary.

After this, I downloaded and unpacked the latest ZIP file from Jaco’s github repo. Then I placed ‘ff-creator-post-processor.py’ in ‘C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Roaming\PrusaSlicer\post-processor’, and ‘Flashforge.ini/.idx’ in ‘C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Roaming\PrusaSlicer\vendor’.

Then I edited the post_process line in FlashForge.ini to read:

Then I fired up PS2.6.2 again, and now the ‘FlashForge FFF’ option is available in the config wizard, as shown in the screenshot below:

And the CreatorPro2 options show up in Prusa – yay

And, even more fantastic, I was able to successfully process an .STL file for printing on my CP2, and even more amazing, the print came out perfectly (I would have accepted even a lousy print, so the print quality was a bonus!).

So, the last step in this drama is to upgrade PS from 2.6.1 to 2.8.0 and find out whether or not all my work will stay in place – fingers crossed!

Fail! PS2.8.0 popped the following error:

And now the config wizard doesn’t show the FlashForge FFF item, and when I clicked on the still-visible ‘CreatorPro2 Left Extruder Only’, PS2.8.0 crashed :(.

Interestingly though, although the ‘FlashForge FFF’ entry no longer shows up in the config wizard display in PS 2.6.0, I can still see (and select!) all the CP2 configuration choices, and I can still process gcode files properly – yay!

So, screwing around a bit, I saved a copy of ‘BIBO.idx’ as ‘FlashForge.idx’ in the ‘C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Roaming\PrusaSlicer\cache\vendor’ folder, and then re-launched PS2.6.1. This time the config wizard showed the ‘FlashForge FFF’ printer, and I can still see (and use) the CP2 options. Not quite sure why, but even though there is a ‘BIBO FFF’ printer item shown in config wizard, the various configurations don’t show up in the ‘printer’ drop-down box.

Well, I can live with PS 2.6.1, but I’d really like to get back to the newer features with 2.8.0, so I’m going to try again to run 2.8.0. Fingers crossed (again)!

Well, good news and bad news; 2.8.0 came up OK, and I could see the CP2 configuration choices, and I could process a file for the CP2. However, when I saved the processed file to disk, I got another Prusa Slicer error as shown

When I dismissed the error message, PS2.8.0 didn’t crash immediately, and I could still see (and select) the CP2 entries in the ‘printer’ drop-down box. However, when I tried to run the config wizard, PS2.8.0 hung up for a long time, and then produced the same error as above. After dismissing the error window the config wizard came up, but without the ‘FlashForge FFF’ entry. Cancelling the wizard still let me use the CP2 config entries, so that’s a plus. I ran the config wizard again, with the same long hangup and the same error message, thinking this time I would click on ‘Finish’ rather than ‘Cancel’. However, I couldn’t even get that far, as the config wizard (and Prusa Slicer) were hung, and I had to kill the whole thing. Brought 2.8.0 back up, and didn’t run the Config wizard, but still got the same ‘preset bundle version not found’ error after 10-30 seconds. Dismissing the error window allowed me to see and use the various CP2 options. I think for the moment I’m going to leave everything where it is. I don’t really need the config wizard, and dismissing one error message is a small price to pay for having the advantages of 2.8.0.

Summary:

I now have PS 2.8.0 working on my new PC, albeit with a one-time error message popping up each time I launch the program, and no ability to use the config wizard. For the moment at least, that’s good enough.

16 July 2024 Update:

Well, that didn’t last long; shortly after I typed the above summary, PS2.6.1 started crashing it was game over for the current iteration. And, it was about this same time that I noticed that I have actually been running PS2.8.0 on my older laptop – with the Creator Pro II (alias “FlashForge”) profile and without any problems – wtf?

So, I decided to start over (again). This time I uninstalled or deleted all PS installs just to be sure (PS2.6.1 wasn’t ‘installed’ – I was running it from the expanded release folder from Github). Then I uninstalled Python312 (it didn’t like some deprecated syntax in Jacothery’s Python profile) and downloaded/installed Python310. Then I copied over my Flashforge profile from my old box to my new one, downloaded PS2.61 (again) and fired it up. Right away I was able to see the CreatorPro2 selections (yay!), but when I sliced a test file and tried to save it, PS popped an error as shown below:

Yuk, down the rabbit hole again! However, by this time I had figured out how to run the post_processing script in Visual Studio in debug mode – not perfectly, but enough to get a clue, and the clue led me to understand that I had pulled a major boner and not installed Pillow, the Python Imaging Library – oops (and this clue hit me on the forehead right after I posted an issue at the Prusa Slicer Settings repo, so I had to follow up the post with a mea culpa). Anyway, I installed Pillow, and suddenly all was well – at least in PS2.6.1. I was able to load an STL model into PS, slice it, save it in proper .GX format to an SD card, and then print the model on my CP2 – yay yay yay!

Then I crossed my fingers and allowed the upgrade from PS2.6.1 to PS2.8.0, and – amazingly – it worked! So now I have both my old and new laptops running PS2.8.0 and both are fully capable of supporting my CP2 printer – whew!

Stay tuned,

Frank

Frank

FlashForge Creator Pro 2 Dual Independent Extruder (IDEX) 3D Printer

Posted 30 August 2021,

For the last year and a half or so I have been struggling to get reliable multi-material 3D prints from my MakerGear M3-ID Independent Dual Extruder (IDEX) machine, and failing. I could get it dialed in for a few prints, but then prints would simply refuse to stay attached to the build plate no matter what I did. I tried everything I could think of, short of ‘hair-spray’ and ‘glue-stick’ options, which I refuse to do. In addition, the web-browser-only operator interface to the M3-ID was more than a little clunky. The printer was set up about 2 meters away from my PC, so I kept having to run back and forth to get simple things done, like load/unload filaments or do first-layer calibrations, or cancelling a print when it, once again, jumped off the build plate.

Eventually I realized I was never going to get it to work reliably in my small home lab, so I started looking for alternatives. In addition to the M3-ID, I have a Prusa MK3S single extruder printer that is completely reliable, almost completely silent when printing, and about twice as fast as the M3-ID. I seriously considered getting the MMU2 multi-material add-on to the Prusa, but there are some serious drawbacks to that option; for one, there have been many reports where running dissolvable and structural filaments through the same extruder causes the printed part to basically fall apart, due to filament cross-contamination. For another, printing a dual material part with the Prusa takes MUCH longer than printing the same dual material part with dual extruders, because the Prusa setup has to go through a complete filament retraction, change, and purge cycle for each material change. For a complex part this adds up to hundreds or even thousands of change cycles.

So, back to the web, where amazingly enough I found that FlashForge had just recently come out with their Creator Pro 2 IDEX model, at a very reasonable price-point. Moreover, I was able to find several YouTube reviews by well-respected 3D printer enthusiasts, and they had very good things to say about the printer. One of the most consistent comments was how easy it was to assemble the printer out of the box and get very high quality prints, and – important to me – get high quality prints using PVA water-soluble support material paired with PLA. In addition, at least one of the reviewers was successful in printing with PETG, even with the 240C extruder temperature limit on the stock extruders. And, even better, there is removable build plate option that works flawlessly (with the addition of a 2mm shim – available on Thingiverse). The build volume of the Creator Pro 2 is about half the volume of the M3-ID, but since I rarely build large items that wasn’t a deal breaker for me.

So, I put my MakerGear M3-ID up for sale on eBay for about a third of what I paid for it, and it sold in about an hour. Then I used the proceeds to buy the FlashForge Creator Pro 2 with a little bit left over – sweet!

When I received the unit, the shipping box looked a little bit beat up, and some of the foam packing material was damaged, so I was worried about printer damage. However, the printer itself seemed in perfect condition, other than a seriously mis-aligned X axis carriage (more on that later). Here are some photos I took during ‘unboxing’ and assembly.

After getting everything unboxed, I started going through the ‘quick start guide’, and rapidly got the extruder assemblies attached to the X-axis carriage, but when I checked the X-axis alignment with the very well thought-out alignment tools (the grey 3D printed parts in the above photo), I discovered the carriage was way out of true, as shown in the following photos:

So, I decided it was time to see how well FlashForge support worked, and I was pleasantly surprised that I got a very quick response to my email. I was connected to ‘Cheery’, who said he would be responsible for getting me going, and he did an excellent job of doing just that. After a couple of back-and-forths, he sent me a link to a video demonstrating how to re-align the extruder carriage. The video showed a FlashForge technician simply reaching into the printer, and brute-forcing the carriage into alignment – wow! Never in a million years would I have tried this without seeing the video – just not something you contemplate doing with your brand-new printer. While watching the video I heard some quite loud clicking sounds which at first I attributed to background noise in the obviously industrial setting, but then realized it was actually the printer itself making the clicking noises as the tech forced the carriage into alignment. I verified with ‘Cheery’ that I too should hear ‘clicks’, and that gave me the courage to apply enough force to overcome whatever ratcheting mechanism is associated with the carriage. I’m a big guy and in pretty good shape for an old fart, and it took some real force to make anything happen. In any case, I eventually got the right number of ‘clicks’ and the carriage was then aligned perfectly – yay!!

Once I got everything put together, I did a couple of the test prints provided by FlashForge, including one they called a ‘Hilbert Square’ that required a support material. I decided to try it with PVA water-soluble material support, and it turned out very nicely.

Not museum quality, but plenty good enough for me!

Although not perfect, this print was SO much better than I had ever been able to achieve with the M3-ID that I almost cried from happiness; out of the box with no real tuning, using FlashForge’s so-so proprietary FlashPrint5 slicer, and bingo – great prints with dissolvable supports – yay!

The next thing I tried was my pill-dispenser design, which features a sliding drawer arrangement to dispense one pill or caplet at a time from a bottle. The sliding drawer requires a dissolvable support to make it work, and again the print worked like a champ on the very first try.

Needless to say I’m extremely happy with my new FlashForge Creator Pro 2 IDEX printer. There are lots of things to quibble about (FlashPrint doesn’t seem to recognize the USB connection, and it’s kind of clunky compared to Simplify3D or Prusa Slicer), but it really, really does a nice job of printing, at least with PLA and PVA support material. I’ve already printed a set of ‘universal filament spool holders’ to replace the FlashForge proprietary ones, and I’ll be doing some more prints in the near future. I have quite a backlog of dual-color, dual-material prints I have been unable to finish while fighting the M3-ID, and I’m looking forward to actually being able to set up a print and walk away, knowing the FFCP2 is reliable enough to leave alone.

28 March 2022 Update:

Since this post was first published back in August of last year, I have been pretty happy with the Flashforge Creator Pro 2 IDEX machine, especially since Jaco Theron and I collaborated (well, Jaco did all the work and I helped with the testing) on a Prusa Slicer config file and post-processing script for this printer, I’ve been even happier.

Unfortunately that all came to a screeching halt about a week ago as I was doing some dual-color test prints to prove out Jaco’s latest changes. First I suffered a filament jam in my right extruder, which I could not seem to clear using my tried-and-true methods.

After a lot of cursing and gnashing of teeth I finally did get it cleared, only to start getting errors about the right extruder not holding temperature. I’ve never heard of this error before, so after scratching my head and searching vainly through the inet, I wound up completely disassembling the right extruder assembly, whereupon I found that the thermocouple cable to the right extruder had broken off where it enters the heat block, as shown in the following photo:

broken thermocouple cable (blue wire) where it enters the heat block.

I had been working with ‘Cheery’ from FlashForge’s After-sales support site through this process, and after verifying the printer was still under warranty, he arranged to have a completely new extruder assembly shipped to my house, from China via DHL – talk about customer support – Wow!

So, the DHL box arrived today, and sure enough, it contained a brand-new extruder assembly, including a brand new stepper motor already attached – wow and wow!

New extruder assy still in its protective foam wrapper, old parts on build plate
Old (left) and new extruder assy – note damaged thermocouple cable on old part

30 March 2022 Update:

I had some time last night, so I installed the replacement extruder assembly. This took a couple of hours and the requisite number of mistakes, including the required “Oh shit – I dropped a screw into the printer and it (of course) went right into one of the gaps in the interior floor and into the electronics space in the bottom – crap!” At first I thought – “no problem, I have spares”, only to realize later that I didn’t have spares for that particular set of two screws – double crap!

And, one last little ‘gotcha’; when the new extruder module was assembled at the factory, the cooling fan was mounted upside down, with the open port for cooling air to the extruder pointing up, and the closed ‘top’ pointing down, as can be seen in the following photo:

red circles show upside down fan mounting. Airflow direction arrow circled at upper right

Anyhoo, after removing the bottom cover of the printer (this turned out to be pleasantly easy, with only four screws vs the 54,225 for normal printers) to find and recover the (literal) loose screw and re-orienting the cooling fan to mate properly with the cooling duct, I finally got everything back together. That was enough drama for last night, so I waited until today to see if my repair worked. After loading filaments and calibrating, I printed a two-color calibration cube using Prusa Slicer for slicing; It turned out pretty nice, as shown below:

two color calibration cube, with ‘draft shield’ enabled

Stay tuned,

Frank